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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
两性的设定就是男人对女人的恶，在这件事上男性背离正义，女性献祭生育
感觉隐喻很多 没有全部看懂 但是最后那几次蜕化视觉值得加一星 又恶脑洞又大
房东、怪物、男孩、牧师、警察，不同的男人有着同样的面孔，他们对女主施加控制与暴力，倒打一耙女主是罪恶的来源。在这限定性别的恐怖片里，男人的名字是无辜，女人的名字是万恶；男人的行为是求偿，女人的行为是还债。女主的前夫之所以选择自杀，怪女主没有在前夫对其家暴后马上原谅他？！不管自己是对是错，我这样都是你害的。能够如此逻辑闭环，这片真是太恐怖了。
被预告里的摄影吸引来看的，期待值非常高，但最终呈现的内容确实是意料之外。我看懂了它想要表达的含义，但却没办法喜欢。看完之后像被扼住了喉咙，不知道该从什么角度去消化它的现实意义。如果艺术能仅仅停留在艺术就好了。
独居的恐惧，被暴露狂跟踪的恐惧，被强奸的恐惧，被婚姻束缚的恐惧，被随意批判的恐惧，生育的恐惧…这么理解就还挺吓人的
心理惊悚恐男cult片，整体氛围营造得很不错，对男权社会下的一次隐喻，男人的恐怖复杂且多样萦绕在女主身边，而且他们永远不停孕育重生，结尾和有些部分看得有点生理不适。
各种隐喻，各种画面，模糊且独特
甄嬛传…容嬷嬷等，是不是还要“恐女”？
A24佳作
近一年以来看过最喜欢的电影。前半：女主孤独得漫步在乡间的小路上，平静中参杂着痛苦和雀跃，以为逃离了城市中噩梦一般的婚姻。神经质的前夫死后都没有放过他，吵架时的每一句诅咒都不可避免得牢牢得钉住她。大地如此得集具灵性，阴阳两面的石雕，男性和女性的生和死。后半：在小镇里遇到的几个男性都share用一张脸，他们各不相同，但每一个都具有着一类典型的“男性特征”，都在某种程度上不同方面得讨厌着，伤害着女性。身上长满了阴道，一个toxic的男性生出另外一个，“男子气概”代代传承繁衍，最后生出的却是浑身是血的前夫。女主在恐惧和痛苦中反击，前夫终于和他的诅咒一起消失在女主的世界中。
本来觉得还可以，惊悚恐怖感是有，音效也是有那个氛围，但是越到后面就越搞不懂了，前面铺垫了这么多，后面还以为会有啥揭开真相的剧情，没想到最后居然弄了这么多让人生理不适的镜头？真的是恶心到我了，是为了惩罚男人而特意设置这么抽象的剧情吗？真的是没必要！整体来说，欣赏不来，故弄玄虚，比较差。
卧槽加兰你在想什么?概念先行是没错，可这个概念本身就有问题，而且后半段女主完全落后于观众，太蠢了，越到后面越蠢，现在要做的根本不是展现伤口而是分析原因，加兰这次的投机创作显然是根本没有这个能力的，男导演拍所谓的“女性主义”电影（因为其实所有“男导演”拍的东西都不会是女性主义电影）最应该想的是以什么身份站在女性的身边，否则就会成为另一种关于话语权的暴力
balance
这部片和拉斯冯提尔的《忧郁》有异曲同工之妙。男性生育套娃和分裂开的左手引起严重生理不适。
一如既往喜欢加兰这种带着神秘莫测的电影。
A failed attempt of “I’m not like the rest of the men.” 作为男性导演写出的八股文，展现一种对toxic masculinity和女性生存困境完全不理解的tonedeaf。Bravo Alex.
视听盛宴，风光大片，最后连环套娃也够刺激，还要什么自行车。就是有些镜头让人联想到《爱在初春惊变时》。好喜欢这种梦幻画面下掩盖的一丝丝惊悚味。
尤其是最后面分叉手，象征着控制与欲望
经典A24神棍片，前面有多小清新，后面就有多恶心…血腥套娃真是惊到我了，足以名留影史的Cult～
长焦镜头，背景的纵深虚化，有一种莫奈的感觉，加一星给某些情绪性的画面，氛围的营造，心理的递进，还有最后一幕是不是要成为名场面：女演员见到男人反复“新生”，就像男人反复说自己已改过，女人表情麻木轻蔑，也如观众对这种“把戏套路”的厌恶.
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