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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一件事情在不同的时代被定义为不同的类别，就会在某个社会层面上升起轩然大波。非法时代，牵连的都是生命，精神疾病的年代，把图灵这样的天才逼疯，不道德的年代，催生了更多的沦丧，堪比人吃人。而在定义为正常的今天，过去种种，都显得那么荒诞和野蛮。除了让恶得到宣泄，下定义还做了什么？nothing
男二的自由靈魂啊，唉。用懸疑片的方式拍感覺有點削弱歷史背景的殘酷了。
恐同即深柜，亘古不变的真理。男主录像带在手，应该还有其他处理方式，偏偏歇斯底里选择最差的办法。。。有一个问题真的很不能理解，人类为什么对和自己无关的事那么关注，尤其是下体的事，于旁人何干？？？
没有什么太大的惊喜，总归也还是不难看。前面三分之二的铺垫还挺不错的，最后的结局不是特别喜欢。
没有未来，即便在阴冷压抑的环境下也要抓住现在。看着好难过
情节发展的处理方式比较简单，在大致呈现社会背景的基础上，清楚地表现出人物的情感与意识的变化。
Tomasz终于演到了一个像样的角色，80年代阴冷华沙被拍得好美好绝望
没有未来，即便在阴冷压抑的环境下也要抓住现在。看着好难过
西部枪战片，讲述了一个你大爷还是你大爷的故事，不幸的是，这次大爷是Mr. 东郭。情节简单，但胜在美景如画，拓荒年代的美国口音几乎听不懂，彼时Sheriff 出身可能都是outlaws ，而后被招安，唯一的takeaway。
如果你爱的人欺骗了你，或是越过了了你的底线，你还会爱他吗
虽然探案的部分写得一般，但类型片框架下的同性故事还是蛮少见的。两男主都很得劲，男主有一种闷骚的性感，而艾瑞克每次出现都像是黑暗中一闪而逝的流星。
切口很小，反思不够，但力道还是有的。看在“我会找到你的”这句非常高级的告白上还是多半颗星吧。这种题材光是拍一部窄视角的片子其实很浪费，当时波兰酷儿群体的真容连管中窥豹都算不上，这个其实我有点不能忍（再说就又要扣星了，打住）。评论里有人说忍不了现实生活中同性恋滥交的本质，这就好像异性恋不喜欢滥交一样，把人类以群体划分又推入一个狭窄的刻板印象永远是不可取的，与其制造更多对立与极端，不如好好思考怎样让人类文明不再以性为耻，这非常任重道远，也一刻不能松懈。
结局倒是挺利索的，应该是我希望快点结束吧
哎呀，一旦知道有同性要素，关注点就都在主角们的情爱上了，明明是犯罪悬疑类型，重点是揭露对少数群体的压迫，我真是太不应该了。
关于感情
叙事结构可以再紧凑一些，配乐很赞，最后10分钟发现局长秘密要去解救情人时，背景音乐突然转为快板女声伴唱急促实为神来一笔，以及恭喜网飞借此片介入波兰政治。
故事还可以再复杂一点 增强一下一步步推理的线索节奏感 会更好
四星无疑。悬念足够，节奏紧凑，情感递进有耐心，佳作，推荐。
前半部分超级精彩，潜伏与情欲，节奏感飞起。后面结尾稍微有点掉。总体还是非常出彩
两星半。以悬疑犯罪为背景展现了一个阴冷灰暗的冬季下自我认知的故事。认清自我这条线讲的还可以，虽然中规中矩但也娓娓道来。而cp戏其实很少，俩人在审讯室有揪心到。但在看到最后受也骗了男主后对峙让他滚，明明攻是过来救他，我攻控劲就飙上来了，情绪全没，我日。（不了解波兰，但看起来对性少数群体的迫害从古至今全球都是一样的。）
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